Digital Income Mastery: Sue Pat's Solopreneur Secrets

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Everyone. It's your girl, Sequoia Blue. I'm back in here again.

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It's been a minute since I've had guests.

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I've been doing my solopreneur thing, a solo podcast thing.

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But now we got some great guests. I told you all that some great guests are coming back on.

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And today we got Sue Pat. So she's going to teach us how to be a solopreneur,

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like a boss, because there are these times we need to know how to get that.

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Get extra income through digital resources.

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And I've been one to talk about that on

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my podcast rather than with someone else or just by myself talking

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about how we can become entrepreneurs in

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different ways and sometimes you don't have a big team so

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i want to thank you for coming on today sue and oh

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yeah thanks for the opportunity really appreciate oh yes

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you welcome yes i look i'm trying to catch up on my guests

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now i said because i said there's so much information to get out here

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and you've been you've been

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teaching people how to be a solopreneur for

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a while now and it seems like you started

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your journey after your spinal cord injury you started empowering

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on solopreneurs to to carve their

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own lane like how did you start that how did you begin that

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process after your spinal cord injury oh actually i

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have been a solopreneur almost whole of my life and because

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I wanted to work from home because

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once I got my kid I just wanted to stay home and

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still I wanted to contribute to the family and that

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was the only option I could find and hey I

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loved it but I had many kinds of businesses I had

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a placement firm I placed people for jobs I

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had computer consulting I was also into network marketing but

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a few years back actually I got a spinal

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cord injury I was bedridden for one year and.

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I refused to go for surgery that's a long story

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but when I recovered fully I felt it was a bonus life for me because I really

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that was a near-to-death experience so it was a bonus life and I wanted to devote

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bonus life for something good cause and I thought okay I will devote it for solopreneur's.

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Progress because nobody understands solopreneur only

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one solopreneur understands other solopreneur neither their

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friends nor family because if your friends are

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out on saturday for party and you

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have a meeting they won't understand and if you are in your home office you

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are working 8 p.m at the night time your spouse comes and asks you why are you

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working you cannot tell him anything and basically I'm working for you so that

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you will have more options so it's very hard so I thought.

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Something for solopreneurs to give them more encouragement

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because many solopreneurs quit their business before

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launching their first product many entrepreneurs don't

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see second year in their business those who see

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second year many of them don't see fifth year so all

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those things I saw I experienced and

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I just wanted to devote my life for solopreneurs journey

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and yeah just wanted to help them out

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yeah i mean that makes sense i mean

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it's it's complicated being an entrepreneur by yourself

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and then the solopreneur journey you're right no one really

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gets it you'd be like i'm trying to sell this product

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i'm trying to promote this they're like huh you're not a millionaire yet what

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are you doing and oh yeah yeah you started

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your business last month and yeah how much money did

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you make yeah yeah just go and ask any business owner

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yeah how much money do they make but you know

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it's it's it's really hard yeah yeah and

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it's like i think there's steps to it because i mean i

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know a lot of people that are researching is seen so

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much on youtube where somebody puts a shirt online and

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then next you know they got all these sales like well

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i mean what is the mindset people have to have with becoming a solopreneur because

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sometimes i think there's so much online you get jaded and you feel like oh

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you know i'm not doing as good as jojo that just launched his shirt last week

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and i didn't make no sales on my shirt but yet you don't have the you didn't

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do it you didn't do the right thing the tools.

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You know actually most solopreneurs quit their 40 hours of job to work for their

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own business and they end up working 80 hours and many times you see this overnight

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success but you ask them and many times their overnight is like 10 years.

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Or yeah sometimes it can be overnight can be five

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years any that even you ask dustin hopman he

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was a janitor and then he when he

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became overnight success he said yeah 10 year i was overnight

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success so it is true for any business but

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you know just to solve these problems now

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means i created digital products like private label

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right products or master reseller products so if

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someone already has a subscriber base ready they can

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just take this product share with their subscribers and they

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can start making money immediately so that

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problem shouldn't be there anymore yeah because

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i have case studies where people made 4k in

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their first week i didn't make 4k in my

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first week but i'm really happy that my students made

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so i'm just happy about that so those

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things are possible and because i learned

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it really hard way and that is the great way

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you know you learn from your own mistakes but it

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is better to learn from somebody else's mistakes so if

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you hire a mentor where you want to be

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so that mentor will tell you what works what doesn't work.

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So then you know it is really you

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get a shortcut so that is what my students did

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my students are smarter than me so by i

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have case studies they made 4k in first week

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just by taking the products sharing with you are sharing

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with their subscribers and just creating irresistible offer i have these private

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level rate products and i can do free installation for you on your platform

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people bought like hot cakes oh god it was really amazing so it's like an affiliate

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program and they can is it like affiliate program.

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This is not actually affiliate programming. Basically, what happens when they

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get private label-led products or master resell-led products,

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they keep the 100% of the profit.

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They keep full profit. But I have done affiliate programming to affiliate marketing too.

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Because what happened when my products were getting transferred from one platform

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to other platform, I couldn't share those because I was not even sure whether

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they are properly set on the new platform and the old platform was I'm retiring.

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So at that time i promoted other people's

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offers i'm convinced about i was

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using so i just shared those and i couldn't

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believe it i was most of the time i was on the leaderboard i

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say oh wow so it may be

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because my i really respect my subscribers a

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lot because in my subject line i clearly tell them

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this is what is there in the email so if you

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don't want to open that's perfectly fine and that's how

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i respect my subscribers and that's how

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they always respond to me so many times

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whatever affiliate programs i shared i was

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on the leaderboard even i didn't know i was good at it but then

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i started saying oh okay i thought my email list

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is really not that huge people have.

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Thousands and thousands of people and yeah

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but it is responsive it's working

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out good yeah it's just mutual respect you

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respect them they respect you every time

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if you try to create a win-win situation things work

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out really well you also feel good and they also get a good benefit oh okay

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so it's two different programs so basically people can join and create their

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own product and they can join and be an affiliate as well with the with the

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new beginning program Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, actually, we have a 50% affiliate commission. So if you share any of my

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offers, even done for you offer there, they are quite actually high ticket.

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But for that also, I give 50% commission because everyone who joins as an affiliate

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on our team, we consider them as our partner.

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So yeah because for

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done for you and high ticket offers 50% is very very high commission because

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for that high ticket offer generally people provide 10% commission nobody gives

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50% but I just yeah I love to share means it it feels good it's not like that I'm doing charity but,

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that makes me happy so I'm doing that.

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Oh, that's amazing. I mean, it kind of reminds me of a few programs I was in the past.

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And I definitely feel like it can help guide someone the right way.

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Because if someone creates a product outside, let's say they create a product

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on Shopify, you do have to pay for marketing and all this stuff.

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And even with you know when I used to do the network marketing

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there was people that still wasn't they didn't know

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how to market that you know like I was I didn't wake up now back

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in the day and wake up now I was around and it

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was tough to market because at that time I did

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better in person I wasn't online I didn't do well.

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Online nor did I have a podcast but I just it

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was such a thing where you had to go to the conferences you had to

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talk to to talk to people and stuff and some people just

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aren't good at that so I think oh I think it's the same thing oh

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my goodness as I remember you did yeah oh yeah

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I did I was into network marketing yeah you go to

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conferences and you talk to people yes I did that

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too I know yeah yeah because

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it's some people like it's crazy time we're in right now because

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a lot of layoffs are going on and even back

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then people was trying to get a regular job but now it's like

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oh I really want to get out like you know

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do you think it's a certain mindset that a person has

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to have to be an entrepreneur rather they're joining your program

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or just any entrepreneurship you know

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mindset can be trained and changed for example i

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was totally against business oh man when i

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was a teenager i saw my distant family members they had businesses and i didn't

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like their life i didn't like anything they did and they did lots of unethical

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practices and i said oh my goodness

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i thought business people are really bad i shouldn't be so when uh,

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Actually, I was ready to get married and ours is arranged marriage.

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So when I got an alliance of business people, I just refused.

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I said, no, I don't want to go to a business family.

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And so I got married to a guy who has a job and my uncle was really mad.

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He said, at the most, he will give you one condo and a bike.

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Why are you marrying a guy who has a job?

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And I said, that's okay. At least he will have principles, he will have ethics and all.

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So that was my mindset that time. And we were really happy, double income, no kids, dinks.

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But the moment I got my first daughter, I just didn't want to leave her to a

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babysitter and go to work.

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But that time we had a new house, we had to pay the mortgage and all.

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So I was looking for options.

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And meanwhile, I was very much into spirituality because I had lots of questions

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and nobody was able to answer my questions.

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So I got into spirituality to seek the answers. and

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then I realized you know it is it is

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not the money is bad money is neutral it's the

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person who has money that decides whether

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the money is bad or good means it just amplifies if you

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are bad you will use for bad reason if you are a

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good person yeah so money just amplifies your

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true nature so money is not good or bad and business

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also I realized it is not like that you have to do unethical practices

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it is basically the more people you

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serve that way you will be recorded so

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rewarded because basically you get

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rewarded for solving their problem so if you solve more

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people's problem you will be rewarded more so I

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started understanding those principles and my mindset

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changed so it's always you

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know if you want to think of the mindset

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it's associated with people where you want

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to go to because you know if you want to catch a

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cold associate with people who already have cold you we learned it in covid

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right yeah so if you want to become a bank robber you associate with bank robber

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but if you want to become successful entrepreneur oh yeah associate with successful

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entrepreneur and that is so important it is really really important.

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Yeah, I do believe like who you hang around is like kind of who you become.

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And if you're with like you have a husband or, you know, boyfriend that's not

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open minded, that can hold you back, too.

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So it's like being, you know, mindful. That's so important because I had to

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learn that, you know, because the person not open minded is like,

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I got to explain this to you all the time, you know,

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it's like because things if you see I got the juice in me and I'm pushing for

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this, you know, if I join New Beginning, you see me doing the work.

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Hey let me let me just get this out here you know let me get it you know let

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me focus on this because life is short and i believe yeah you know you have

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to go after stuff you want to go after.

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So that's my thought on that so what what are your thoughts

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on um ai and business and stuff there's such a

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big talk about ai and you know

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a lot of people feel like i don't have nothing to do with it you

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know ai is a tool ai is a tool

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and you know any tool it's how it

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depends on how you use it for example knife you

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can use it for cutting chopping vegetables or

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you can use knife for killing somebody so it's

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the the tool it's it depends means

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how you are going to use it but another thing

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you are in control so

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you cannot depend totally on the tool because i

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see some people they are totally dependent on ai but

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i really feel ai can be used in such a way that it can enhance your productivity

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because i hear this question all the time will ai take my job so it's no there

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are so many tools this is a one new tool but yeah i can make you better for example,

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i'm not good at everything so english is my third language so i can use ai for creating the.

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Framework for my blog post means that will take care of the means blank,

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state syndrome so i don't have to just keep on

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looking at the blank slate so instead so.

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I i'll get the but in between i have to

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write i have to put my heart and words into it but.

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At the end again ai can make my.

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Writing better it can refine my writing

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but still the more strategy and the

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heart and the words and everything those are put

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by me because ai is also as good as

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your prompt and you have to design

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the prompt if you give the generic prompt your output

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will be generic but if you really specify everything

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you put your brand voice and everything the output

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will be there so your heart your brain it's

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directly involved in ai so

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means i think it is a tool and there

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are so many controversies going

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on that okay it is a very expensive

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tool it is taking lots of resources from

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the earth to maintain the ai bank

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and this and that yeah so anything which

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is new right now it is not optimized so so

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that's why maybe it is taking lots of resources but later

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on means everything will be optimized and everything

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will be better for example initially the

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computers when they got started yeah one

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mb was really hardly no no but now you are carrying that much of computer in

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your pocket yeah so means things will be optimized everything will be better

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initially everyone has a rough start so i really thing, you have to embrace the new technology.

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I totally agree on that one. I totally agree. I'm all about adaptability.

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So I just feel like that's where we're at. It's going to come whether you like

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it or not. It's just going to come.

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And that's it. So we have to learn because we're getting to a point where that's,

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I mean, I don't think it'll take all the jobs and stuff. I just think that you

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just need to know how to use it.

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And that's about it. You're just going to be forced to know how to use it.

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And if you don't like it, then you have to find other ways of income.

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Yeah, especially I teach people how to make passive income so that you set up

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your funnels or work and then you keep on getting money again and again.

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And that is really possible with AI because, for example, you can set up your,

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for example, marketing funnel or email campaign.

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So you may forget to send that email campaign. But once you set the automation, AI won't forget.

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So there are pros and cons. And so as a human being, you might be having some

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cons, but it is a great marriage with AI so that it will take care of all your

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weaknesses, weak spots.

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And basically, it will be a better version of you.

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Yeah, I totally agree because it totally helped me out with a lot of stuff.

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So I think because I'm just not I mean, I'm better at speaking when you tell

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me I got to write something and, you know, I can write a story.

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But when you're telling me I have to write about like okay I

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just had an interview I gotta write about it what did I do you know I gotta

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go and I just have I like AI it helps me out helps me with my product that I

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have that I launched you know not like two years ago so it helps me with that

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it just helped me with a lot of stuff that I was stressed out about so I think

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that there's there's definitely benefits up for it and it's gonna just get better

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with ethics and everything and.

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What's your favorite part about being a solopreneur? It's a flexibility.

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I really love the flexibility.

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I really love the flexibility. I don't like to answer the boss.

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Yeah, I mean, actually, I won't categorize myself into solopreneurship anymore

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because I have a team now.

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Yeah, you're right. I can say more like an entrepreneur.

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So, but still, you know, I'm really thankful to be a solopreneur.

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I'm really thankful because I worked in corporate America and some people, yeah, they love it.

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But I immediately understood it was not for me.

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Yeah, so, so, and there are lots, lots of benefits, lots of, I just love what I do.

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And even though I was in corporate America actually my work was not bad but

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means you are just doing small part of big project and yeah you have to you have to just.

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You have to comply to their structure and you

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have to follow that and there can

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be so much of politics and all yeah this means

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basically and i really like when

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i help people i see their lives are changing and it's

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becoming better i can see the impact

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happening immediately so it

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it gives really a soothing feeling that okay you

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are helping another human being becoming better it's a really good feeling somehow

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i i had i i didn't have that feeling even when i worked into the computer tech

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industry and back home I was doing pharmaceutical that time I absolutely didn't

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have that feeling because.

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As a pharmaceutical, actually, I was doing PhD in pharmacology and I saw so many drugs.

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So I was reading about the drugs and then only first couple of paragraphs of

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the usage of the drug and after that pages and pages of the counter reactions.

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So I asked my guide, why do we prescribe these drugs? They are so bad.

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So then my guide said, these are only for emergency.

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These are never meant for long term use. and

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then I was into R&D of a big big pharma I

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won't say the name it is really big one and it is still big

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and the whenever I went

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for the meeting their goal was how to put

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any human being on a drug and keep

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them on that drug lifelong and I said this

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is a totally mismatch this is

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a totally mismatch because my guide clearly told me

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it shouldn't be prescribed for long and

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here the pharmaceuticals outlook is like that so

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i just wanted to get out of that industry immediately

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means and many of my

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classmates are still in that industry and they come and they say hey it is so

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easy to become millionaire in pharmaceuticals i say yeah but that was not the

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only goal i had in my life okay means because yeah i should feel good also whatever

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i contributed to the community, I should feel good.

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I don't want to make money by hurting somebody else.

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I don't want someone to be on the medicine for life long. And I know it's not really good for them.

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So that's just my outlook.

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No, I totally agree. I mean, I would feel that way, too. I'm like,

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man, I would try to get out, too, because definitely got this lot going on with these prescriptions.

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That's a whole other thing that's going on.

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And sometimes you have to, some people have to take them. And it's a sad thing

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because some people have to do it because they have no other way out because

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some of the natural remedies that we all see and try to do, it doesn't work for everybody.

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Like you know but it works for some but doesn't it it's just

00:22:02.845 --> 00:22:05.705
it's a hit or miss but but yeah so before we

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go i want to talk about like your your coaching program and everything

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like what is it that people can sign up for and look forward

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to to to get help with you know with just

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becoming a solopreneur or entrepreneur yeah so

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i see my whole program is designed

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based on the feedback i got so when i started the journey.

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To help solopreneurs i started blogging because

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i thought that is the free resources i can provide to solopreneurs and

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my blog started getting lots of traction so then they said

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we love your blogs we don't have time to read why don't you start podcast

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and youtube so i started podcasting and youtube i

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that was the last thing in my mind because english is my third

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language i was not sure whether people will

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understand my accent but i started anyway

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because people asked for it and then my every offer

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is designed based on what they asked

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for it because i saw people struggling to create

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lead magnet for six months so then i created offer

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okay i can create your lead magnet within six hours so that you can start sharing

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it immediately and start building your subscriber list i saw people spending

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years and years in creating their first digital product e-courses and then that's

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why then i came up with this.

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PLR and MRR that is private label right product and master

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sell right products which you can take them PLR means

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you can rebrand and sell or you can take MRR means

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you can just take and sell as

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it is and keep 100% profit so that someone

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can start making money from the first week itself in

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the business so I help people launch their products on

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the fast track and when they want to scale they

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can join my mastermind where I help them to

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scale their business and as

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a bonus I show them how they can sell their digital products

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all over the world using affiliates in 200 plus countries because many people

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they have a passion to create something but they are not comfortable with sales

00:24:07.285 --> 00:24:11.785
and marketing and hey you are in your own business you should be comfortable

00:24:11.785 --> 00:24:14.305
with sales and marketing but if you don't want to do,

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then there are these affiliates, they are willing to help you and with the nominal,

00:24:20.865 --> 00:24:25.285
commission, hey, you will have your revenue coming in and you can spend your

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time in doing the things which you love to do the most. So it is a win-win situation.

00:24:31.936 --> 00:24:37.996
I like that. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So basically launch, scale and sell at these

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three stages, I help them.

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Oh, that is so amazing. Yes. Because I mean, I think, you know,

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for me, I do well with ads when I run ads, but it's expensive.

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So sometimes, you know, I like I like to do if I can get affiliates and some

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some soldiers for me for my car game.

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I will I would gladly get some soldiers. I'm really happy you said about ads

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because most solopreneurs they don't have thousands of dollars sitting in the

00:25:03.176 --> 00:25:09.176
bank when they start a business and that's why means we use the approach of collaboration.

00:25:09.536 --> 00:25:13.656
So I have a free course called 27 ways to collaborate.

00:25:13.956 --> 00:25:20.456
So you can choose one or two ways of collaborating and with other people who

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have a complementary business but same ideal customer profile.

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So you can run with them and you can borrow

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other people's audiences and grow businesses if you

00:25:30.776 --> 00:25:33.676
have gone to real estate seminar they say that

00:25:33.676 --> 00:25:36.716
you borrow other people's money to start your business

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here we say you borrow other people's audiences and

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grow your business so means because ads

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can drain your money a lot and initial stages

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people i'm not against ads but if you

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have some steady income coming in part of

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that you can put into ads but initially yeah it's

00:25:56.256 --> 00:25:59.696
better to start collaborating with other people and

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yeah you can grow your business yeah that'd be good i mean i haven't found that's

00:26:05.776 --> 00:26:09.476
a good idea i mean i've the people i've been collaborating with what money but

00:26:09.476 --> 00:26:13.596
but and i've paid them but i definitely would like to work with some people

00:26:13.596 --> 00:26:18.696
i want to barter more so than me saying oh two hundred dollars every time you share my game.

00:26:18.836 --> 00:26:21.476
It's like, ah, you know, $200 every time.

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I mean, it's fine sometimes, but it's like, hey, I'm trying to grow this thing.

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So I think a lot of people cross that.

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But I think I got to keep trying and others got to keep trying.

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If you want to save money, you don't want to run ads every time until you get

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more sales. Then we're going to have to find people that want to barter.

00:26:38.552 --> 00:26:42.172
So, you know, I think that's definitely true. And you said all over the world, too.

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So it might you might work with someone somewhere else in another country,

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you know, and they might not be as expensive as someone here in the U.S.

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Where oh absolutely all this you know so i think that's something that was key

00:26:55.092 --> 00:26:59.492
thing to say that was important you know so i think that's super cool because

00:26:59.492 --> 00:27:03.112
we we they need we need this help and know that it's not if it doesn't happen

00:27:03.112 --> 00:27:06.012
overnight people it's okay just keep going right.

00:27:06.812 --> 00:27:11.652
Absolutely right yes you know that's the main issue that's see why people give

00:27:11.652 --> 00:27:15.912
up and that's for podcasting anything like if they don't see what they want

00:27:15.912 --> 00:27:18.192
in five minutes they're like oh it's done.

00:27:18.372 --> 00:27:22.612
It didn't work. Well, you didn't do that yet. We still got stuff to do.

00:27:22.772 --> 00:27:25.032
And you asked them what they did. A lot of times they didn't do anything.

00:27:25.172 --> 00:27:26.272
They didn't study digital marketing.

00:27:26.432 --> 00:27:29.612
They didn't take a course like yours or just even any course that they feel

00:27:29.612 --> 00:27:33.052
they want to take to learn how to run ads, learn how to get,

00:27:33.452 --> 00:27:35.092
some people don't even know how to find influencers.

00:27:35.412 --> 00:27:39.112
And I mean, I've seen it all. Like there's people with money that still don't

00:27:39.112 --> 00:27:41.152
know how to, they haven't learned how to run the ads.

00:27:41.312 --> 00:27:44.352
It's like, you got the money though. What are you doing so it's just

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and that's why i said it's important to have people like

00:27:47.072 --> 00:27:49.932
you guiding because they don't even they just

00:27:49.932 --> 00:27:53.092
don't know the first step and so i'm just i'm grateful

00:27:53.092 --> 00:27:57.892
for you sue no i'm really thankful thanks for the opportunity because you know

00:27:57.892 --> 00:28:02.572
you are doing great means you are i i just love the work you are doing i love

00:28:02.572 --> 00:28:07.092
your heart i love your passion people in your community they are totally blessed

00:28:07.092 --> 00:28:10.992
really thank you keep up the great work oh you welcome.

00:28:11.492 --> 00:28:15.912
Thank you. Yeah. I'm going to do some more guest interviews coming up too,

00:28:16.052 --> 00:28:18.972
to get some, you know, get some more great people like you on.

00:28:19.372 --> 00:28:23.352
And I just want to say thank you for coming on. And if you already have your

00:28:23.352 --> 00:28:25.992
website and stuff, so I'm going to add that to the show notes so everybody can

00:28:25.992 --> 00:28:29.792
join and get this information so we can change our lives and wake up,

00:28:29.852 --> 00:28:32.832
wake up happier. Sure. Thank you.

00:28:34.432 --> 00:28:37.152
Yes, you're welcome. And thanks everybody for rocking with me.

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Please subscribe and share and be safe out there. Peace.